If I recall correctly there are different flavors of slavery. There is brutality and servitude and then there is a sort of trusted servitude with possibility of freedom. An indebted Israelite could sell themselves into slavery to repay the debt, becoming free when it was worked off. It wasn't like slaves in the US during the civil war.
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1 Timothy 6:1: One of the funniest verses in the Bible that reveals its very shortsighted human authorship.
by Island Man inlet those who are under the yoke of slavery keep on considering their owners worthy of full honor, so that the name of god and the teaching may never be spoken of injuriously - 1 timothy 6:1. .
yes, you've read correctly.
it's not the fact that the author condones slavery and never tells his readers that it's bad to own slaves - it's not that that will bring reproach on the religion, no!
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Of all the bible characters would you like any as a friend ?
by Chook intax collector guy might help out..
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I would want to be the friend of Ard, because let's face it, who wants to be friends with anyone named Muppim or Huppim? Maybe Jim Henson.
(Genesis 46:21) 21 And the sons of Benjamin were ... Mup′pim and Hup′pim and Ard.
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Spiritual headship question
by charity7 innon jw here married to a jw.
i was told by two witnesses that if a woman jw were to marry a non jw that she would have no say whatsoever in what their children would believe or go to church if he was of a different religious belief and he enforced it.
from what i've read in different threads this is actually not the case.
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*** w02 8/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
...the unbelieving husband might insist that his children practice his religion, taking them to his place of worship and giving them religious education according to his faith. Or a husband may be opposed to all religion and insist that his children receive no religious education. As the head of the family, he is the one primarily responsible for making the decision.[Footnote]
The wife’s legal right to free practice of religion includes her right to attend Christian meetings. In some cases, a husband has been unwilling to care for minor children at those times, so the loving mother was obliged to take them with her to the meetings. -
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"Is There a Creator Who Cares About You?" -- New Light Edition
by cognisonance inafter studying hubble space telescope images of the night's sky and attending classes under disguise at wor-wic community college (air travel and tuition funded by your donations no less), gerrit losch managed to secure a two-thirds majority vote among the governing body to release a second updated edition of the creator book.
this new edition replaces the "pillars of creation" (eagle nebula) cover photo with "god's birdie" (carina nebula):.
they've also had a change of heart with regards the concept of intellectual honesty and have updated the quote on page 9 that said:.
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I like the alternate title, "Is There a God? Who Cares?"
Not me.
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Have you ever looked back at your early posts on here?
by stuckinarut2 inno doubt we are all overjoyed at how we have progressed since breaking the shackles of the society!.
for those that have been here on this forum for some time, have you ever looked back at the version of "you" that first started posting here, and compared yourself with where you are at now?.
i am overjoyed at how much i have grown as a person!.
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This thread made me really think. I would say that when I first posted there was fear of exposure, not to God, but to other active JW's. Now they can take a flying leap as far as I care.
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Why I like this site
by UnshackleTheChains inthe reason i like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all.
the very title 'jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.. the good thing is that jw's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.
my hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!.
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Perhaps that's why so many feel a responsibility to not post extremist views or unbalanced junk that detract from the valuable points made by those who have survived the organization's duplicity.
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Hi from England
by victimofdeceit inrecently quit being a jw because i realised that beyond armageddon i was going to be ruled by people who cover up child abuse, not telling the congregations by their letter where the money they donated in the box is going towards paying compensation for legal battles which they caused, and also i was bullied by elders and discriminated against for being homosexual, even though i am not practicing it.
it wasn't until i threatened legal action for a breach of confidence that the elders were deleted.
so through the media and my own personal experience, i realised that they were no different to corrupt businesses in the world.
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When you take control of your life you will cease to be a victim any longer. As you stop thinking the "world" is out to get you, you will find new and better friends. Don't be dismayed if you do not make a lot of friends, inside or outside the organization you usually have one or perhaps two good close friends. The other people you will interact with will be much less judgemental though. So put on your seat belt and get moving, the world is waiting! Of course many here are in the same situation. We'll be here to help as we are able. Welcome!
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ET phones home
by Coded Logic ina nearby star, ross 128, about 11 light years away, seems to be putting out some rather remarkable radio waves.
discovered by the arecibo observatory in puerto rico (the one shown in the move contact) other observatories like the allen telescope array are set to begin observations in the next couple of days to make sure the signal really is coming from interstellar space and isn't caused by instrument malfunction or radio waves bouncing off satellites.
it could be anything at this point (but very-very unlikely aliens).
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Now we need to build a wall around the earth to keep those illegal aliens out. When will it end! Making Earth Great Again!
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Cute: A Goose Quacked And Pecked At A Cop’s Car. When He Followed Her, He Couldn’t Believe What He Saw!
by Hecce inofficer james givens has served with the cincinnati police department for over 26 years, but has never quite experienced anything like this before.
he was sitting in his patrol car in a parking lot when he got an unexpected visitor.
a goose came up to his car and started pecking on the side of it.
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Whatever happened to these prophecys . Zech. 8:23 / Isa..60 :22 .Do they ever refer to it now ?
by smiddy inzech.
"this is what jehovah of armies has said...."it will be in those days that ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold ,yes they will actually take hold of the skirt of a man who is a jew saying:"we will go with you people,for we have heard that god is with you people ".. this was a scripture that was presented to me, that i was fullfilling bible prophecy , when i first became interested in jw`s and of course all other studies,baptisms that were occuring at that time .and the clincher of course was,.
isa.60:22 the little one himself will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.i myself jehovah,shall speed it up in it`s own time .. and i`m talking now about the early 1960`s.
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If I remember right the ten men taking hold of the hem of a "Jew" (remnant of spiritual Jews) are the "Great Crowd of other sheep". I don't think any number was meant literal or expanded on. Its been too long to speak dogmatically. That's what I mean, 144,000 literal, 10 men symbolic. You pick. Could be a tough thing to do.